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September 09, 2010
18:14
Fole.com $1450 - Sedo Auction ending in less than 3 hours!
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-= Fole.com Auction ending in less than 3 hours! =-

BID HERE

Great CVCV.com name, pronounceable and memorable. Hurry up and you might get a bargain here!

Similar recent sales:

gapo.com $3,100.00 8/9/2010 Sedo
sera.com $4,350.00 7/6/2010 Ebay
gomi.com $6,300.00 4/21/2010 Sedo
cipa.com $25,000.00 4/19/2010 Sedo
lono.com $4,350.00 4/19/2010 Sedo
lifo.com $10,500.00 2/2/2010 Afternic
sofi.com $7,200.00 1/31/2010 NameJet
coni.com $4,100.00 1/19/2010 SnapNames
pepe.com $15,000.00 12/28/2009 Bido
hipe.com $5,205.00 10/22/2009 Sedo
deno.com $7,700.00 6/27/2009 Sedo
bebi.com $5,005.00 5/30/2009 TDNAM
tego.com $7,100.00 4/24/2009 NameJet
September 08, 2010
12:48
DNForum Down
» ‎ Domain Magnate

First it was NamePros down for 2 days, now it’s DNForum that is down. Hopefully this won’t last as long. I have a bunch of pms to reply to and several transactions to complete. What’s up with that?

Update: DNF is back up after a few hours of downtime, but working slowly for now and sending pms and making posts doesn’t seem to work.

Update2: DNF is down again!

Update3: DNF back up and running after 4-5 hours of downtime
4:16
No.. A Nice Logo will Not make your site Profitable
» ‎ Domain Magnate

Some domainers seem to think that a logo can make or break a good site. I have news for you - it can not, unless this is a site selling logos, and even then it’s not that important.

Recently I was building some new sites and needed to get about 20 different logos done. I checked about 30 designers, looking quickly over their portfolios to see their quality. It may sound like a lot, but in fact it only takes me a few seconds to take a quick look at the designer’s portfolio to know if this is what I need or not. And after that initial glance a couple minutes maximum and I have a pretty good idea of what this designer can do.

So I received price suggestions and solicitations with portfolios and examples from these designers and picked one that was a bit more expensive than average, but the quality of his designs was truly great. All that took about an hour and around $150 (for the 20 logos). Some might consider it expensive, others would say it’s cheap, but this is the price you can get good quality logos for at various forums and freelancer sites. And I do mean good quality, highly professional which are not worse than those you can get by running a contest at 99designs.com - because in fact on 99designs.com these are the same people making your logos.

It’s true there are many people willing to pay $50 and $100 and even more for a logo, others arrange contests and ask for forum members to vote for their best choice. And I could understand when it’s a logo for a big business, a chain of sites, a company site, or something like Bido.com (R.I.P.), but when you’re just building some mini site on a .info domain - who cares what logo you have?

What really makes a site profitable (assuming you are not just building the sites to be able to say that you’re developing your domains..) is a strategy for acquiring traffic (SEO for example, then you need decent content and lots of links) and monetization (adsense, affiliate sales, leads). So stop fixating on your logos and go get some backlinks instead!
September 07, 2010
4:32
NamePros.com - Down for the Whole Day!
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NamePros.com has been down for the Whole Day today!

Anyone has a scoop on what’s going on? Is it a DOS attack, a server move, or did they forget to pay the hosting bill?

Update: NP is back up and running at full force! Was down for around 2 full days, which is a record by all means. Several unfortunate incidents happened among NP addicts, but the death toll is still unknown.
September 04, 2010
21:05
ALL CCC.com Sales for 2010 And Price Analysis
» ‎ Domain Magnate
There seems to be an elevated interest in CCC.com domains lately from domain resellers and investors, especially the LLN.com and LNN.com types. However most people still take the 3character.com price guide into account, not realizing how far those values are from the market reality, so I’ve compiled a list of ALL reported CCC.com domain sales on auctions since the beginning of 2010. The list contains 101 domain sales, with sales prices ranging from $76 to $4000. At Godaddy prices are usually considerably lower than on Sedo.

NLN.com and LNL.com type of domains are the worst prices wise. ‘0′ is the worst digit, while ‘1′ is the best - the exception is when 0 created a number, e.g. d40, 50x, v10 etc. Names with repeating digits or letters usually fetch significantly higher amounts.Letter combos with special meanings or acronyms can fetch surprisingly high prices on Sedo, take a look at 0fx.com below (fx is the common acronym for forex).

The real minimum wholesale market prices are like this:
- NLN.com and LNL.com - below $100 for the worst combination and $130-150 on average.
- NLL.com, NNL.com, LLN.com, LNN.com - $110 min and $200-300 for decent combos
Several expired CCC.com domains sell on Godaddy auctions almost every week, while Sedo auctions are naturally more random. Some also sell at snapnames and namejet.

The list:

Date                     Name          $         MarketPlace
29/08/2010    8ae.com    271    GoDaddy
29/08/2010    y5m.com    130    GoDaddy
26/08/2010    0fx.com    2,272 Sedo
25/08/2010    55u.com    1,316    Sedo
22/08/2010    kg8.com    255    GoDaddy
22/08/2010    jg8.com    230    GoDaddy
14/08/2010    3tq.com    405    GoDaddy
09/08/2010    av0.com    200    GoDaddy
03/08/2010    8sf.com    365    GoDaddy
01/08/2010    ui0.com    165    GoDaddy
01/08/2010    tq0.com    135    GoDaddy
01/08/2010    ud0.com    120    GoDaddy
30/07/2010    7sj.com    226    GoDaddy
28/07/2010    1zg.com    165    GoDaddy
23/07/2010    h3j.com    210    GoDaddy
20/07/2010    o2j.com    4,000    Sedo
11/07/2010    2vw.com    215    GoDaddy
06/07/2010    8ig.com    102    GoDaddy
05/07/2010    z1g.com    360    Sedo
05/07/2010    1o2.com    103    GoDaddy
04/07/2010    k6f.com    76    GoDaddy
04/07/2010    f6h.com    76    GoDaddy
04/07/2010    f6n.com    76    GoDaddy
04/07/2010    f7c.com    76    GoDaddy
04/07/2010    m7x.com    76    GoDaddy
02/07/2010    x5d.com    141    GoDaddy
29/06/2010    u6o.com    162    GoDaddy
28/06/2010    u8c.com    155    GoDaddy
25/06/2010    s8t.com    185    GoDaddy
16/06/2010    8zd.com    206    Sedo
16/06/2010    h0q.com    105    Sedo
14/06/2010    v0o.com    146    GoDaddy
10/06/2010    6xy.com    576    Sedo
09/06/2010    s8e.com    140    GoDaddy
05/06/2010    17w.com    2,000    Sedo
04/06/2010    9ue.com    130    GoDaddy
03/06/2010    j6m.com    130    GoDaddy
28/05/2010    j05.com    220    Sedo
23/05/2010    05j.com    180    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    6yw.com    170    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    z1g.com    140    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    0qj.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    8g7.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    u1f.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    q0w.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    0b6.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    4m0.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    aq0.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    y9i.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    0b7.com    115    GoDaddy
23/05/2010    0o5.com    115    GoDaddy
20/05/2010    3k1.com    205    GoDaddy
20/05/2010    0f6.com    130    GoDaddy
20/05/2010    e6z.com    120    GoDaddy
20/05/2010    7z6.com    120    GoDaddy
15/05/2010    o1o.com    405    GoDaddy
15/05/2010    5nt.com    380    Pool
15/05/2010    47l.com    140    Sedo
13/05/2010    e2h.com    305    GoDaddy
11/05/2010    x7i.com    105    GoDaddy
11/05/2010    v7u.com    105    GoDaddy
02/05/2010    8sh.com    301    GoDaddy
02/05/2010    nu9.com    205    GoDaddy
28/04/2010    wx7.com    242    Pool
28/04/2010    ij9.com    126    GoDaddy
23/04/2010    ow3.com    135    GoDaddy
23/04/2010    uj3.com    130    GoDaddy
23/04/2010    uf3.com    110    GoDaddy
20/04/2010    1lh.com    230    GoDaddy
15/04/2010    v2h.com    245    GoDaddy
12/04/2010    uj7.com    135    GoDaddy
11/04/2010    8v1.com    200    GoDaddy
09/04/2010    6fy.com    213    GoDaddy
08/04/2010    hs3.com    575    Moniker
03/04/2010    11z.com    800    Sedo
02/04/2010    d0l.com    505    GoDaddy
02/04/2010    1nu.com    305    GoDaddy
25/03/2010    4v4.com    733    Sedo
19/03/2010    4g4.com    460    Sedo
06/03/2010    d7c.com    112    Sedo
03/03/2010    00f.com    170    Sedo
24/02/2010    vv4.com    360    Sedo
22/02/2010    7z7.com    1,050    Sedo
11/02/2010    gk0.com    450    GoDaddy
11/02/2010    6vv.com    310    Sedo
05/02/2010    1py.com    293    Sedo
04/02/2010    5tr.com    423    Sedo
24/01/2010    jl0.com    161    Sedo
23/01/2010    fu7.com    1,045    Afternic
20/01/2010    3yf.com    200    Sedo
20/01/2010    3ey.com    171    Sedo
19/01/2010    d99.com    1,263    Moniker
19/01/2010    77f.com    1,110    Moniker
19/01/2010    40d.com    995    Moniker
19/01/2010    z55.com    818    Moniker
19/01/2010    at7.com    650    Moniker
19/01/2010    b7b.com    635    Moniker
19/01/2010    4lu.com    525    Moniker
19/01/2010    os9.com    300    Moniker
19/01/2010    5md.com    300    Moniker
17/01/2010    nq0.com    152    Sedo
03/01/2010    5dk.com    3,100    Sedo

(c) DomainMagnate.com
September 03, 2010
19:58
Best Place to Buy .co Domains and Some Stats
» ‎ Domain Magnate
.co domains are the undoubtedly biggest story of 2010, while many people are skeptical about them, the auctions are already fetching prices high enough to shame any cctld.

Ironically NameCheap.com appears to have the lowest prices for .co domains. The (double) irony is in the fact that despite having the word “cheap” in its name NameCheap prices are higher than in most other registrars, however it’s a very popular registrar among web masters and newbie domainers due to the ease of use and simple interface.

Here are the prices:
- NameCheap.com $22.98/yr
- Dynadot.com $27.99
- Name.com $28
- GoDaddy $29.99
- MyDomain.com $29.99
4 rounds of auctions have been carried out by the registry and over half a million .co domains are now registered. For more info and discussions on the .co domains check out the appropriate threads on DNForum, NamePros and NetBuilders.

It’s been 1.5 months since the registrations opened for .co and here are some of the highest sales so far:

autoglass.co $53,000
duiattorney.co $44,500
duilawyer.co $43,000
taobao.co     $31,500
vehicles.co     $18,500
boulder.co $17,000
sites.co $15,500
dentists.co $12,500
apply.co $12,000
shipping.co     $11,000
caribbean.co     $10,610
betting.co $10,100

I personally just registered 3 .co’s - only for a test to see if they get any type in traffic. I might register more later however. How many did you grab and what are you planning to do with them?
3:24
FOLE.com and AKEB.com on Auctions
» ‎ Domain Magnate

I started two $60 no reserve auctions today on sedo for these two great 4 letter domains:

FOLE.com

AKEB.com

It’s been a while since I auctioned anything on Sedo, especially without a reserve, so it’s a bit of a gamble and I’m curious to see how they do.

Also I’m running a Large top 4 letter domains sale going on on DNF, with domains like Pame.com Hace.com Bonu.com DDRR.com CEFO.com KWAP.com and more..
September 02, 2010
15:35
3Character.com Price Guide is Way Outdated and Incorrect!
» ‎ Domain Magnate
With all the respect to Zesty for keeping and maintaining the 3 char domains price guide, which has been a valuable resource for domainers for many years, lately it has become quite outdated and some of the price figures in it have little to do with the reality on the market. Here are some examples:
1. LLL.com min price has gone quite below $4k despite the guide putting it at $4750. Recent sales on sedo: whz.com $4,050, aoq.com $3,499, xtq.COM €3,050. There are also quite a few low quality LLL.com’s available for sale on dnforum which can be easily purchased for around or below $4k.
2. Low quality LLL.biz, LLL.info, LLL.us have become almost worthless, having no liquidity, except for good, premium letters, or meaningful combos.
3. Min 3 Char prices (CCC.com) are also below the nominal value: LLN.com and NLL.com have a $245 and $200 min prices in the guide respectfully, however many recent sales on Sedo and GoDaddy auctions fetch considerably below that: 0xi.com $160, ui0.com $165, tq0.com $135, 0qj.com $115, aq0.com $115, 0mx.com $120, 1zg.com $165
4. The biggest joke of all: N-N.com - despite their extreme rarity: only 100 are available are selling for roughly 3-4 times less than the guide’s value. There were no recent sales reported, however the latest one: 2-9.com for $617 on sedo from half a year ago is pretty close. Since recently this incredible deal was offered on DNF - with no interest at all: 4 decent N-N.com’s (with no zeros) plus an LLL.info for only $1950 - which comes down to below $500 per N-N.com compared to the $1700 minimum reseller price mentioned in 3char guide.
5. L-L.com - not many sales happened lately, but a few months ago we’ve seen a few of them on Sedo auctions: q-i.com $752, z-l.com $702 - despite the noted min reseller price of $2200 for L-L.com.
Hopefully we’ll soon see 3char price guide values changed to reflect the market and being updated based on the market data to be once again a great help to domainers.

The main question on everyone’s mind is of course what will happen with the short domains in the near future, especially LLL.com’s which are the domain resellers favorites: they are easy to appraise, rather liquid and hold good value. Two and half years ago at peak times we’ve seen the min prices for LLL.com reaching $8k and after that prices started to plummet and have been falling ever since. While there are always opportunities for quick flips on auctions and forums, personally I wouldn’t advice people buying low quality LLL.com’s taking advantage of low prices as an investment - it’s hard to predict how the prices will change, they might as well keep falling and reach new lows. However the good quality LLL.com’s - with no bad letters such as: Y,Z,X,Q or even without J,W,V may represent a good investments due to the good potential for end user interest and affordable prices below $10k.

Moral of the day: Do your own research, check the recent sales and demand vs supply on the forums and marketplaces; don’t rely solely on guides!
September 01, 2010
13:59
What Should We Do About Non-Paying Buyers?
» ‎ Domain Magnate

This happened with me yesterday. One of the not so nice sides of domaining. In short: a member blue777 was asking for cvcv.com domains to buy and I pmed him a list of my names, including hace.com which is a great cvcv.com domain with many meanings and over 100 million results in google, asking him to make his best offer and if I like it I might accept, so he offered $3,000 for hace.com and I accepted it. But a few hours later he replied withdrawing his offer.

It’s not the first time it happened to me, domainers face this kind of thing frequently. Usually however from “end users” or other newbie domainers. In most cases it’s ignored, sometimes people would post/complain about it, or leave a negative itrader. But the fact that it was an established member who’s been around DNF for years and had many itraders, as well as the fact that he felt he could retract his offer (even after it was accepted) as easily as he could make one made me post about this.

Have you encountered this kind of behavior, what’s your opinion on the matter? What should we do in such cases?
August 30, 2010
18:39
WHY Why Push It To Auction?
» ‎ Domain Magnate
If you take a look at sedo auctions at any given time most of the auction listings only have one bid and the vast majority of them also end up with one single bid - the end user who made a bid and the seller decided to push it to auction.

When you push a domain with a high starting bid (high in relation to its reseller value) to auction one of the following is bound to happen, in this order of likelihood:
1. The domain will get no more bids and the initial bidder will win. However during the 7 days he had plenty of time to (a) find another domain; (b) reconsider his proposal and (c) also saw that no one else was interested in outbidding him - which only tells him that he is overpaying, and no one likes to pay more. The chances of the buyer not following through with the purchase are increasing significantly and we all know how high is the percentage of non paying buyers on Sedo.
2. The domain will receive one more bid from another interested buyer. Strangely enough many sedo auctions end with just two bids (not 3 or 4, but exactly 2) - with the first bidder not getting into a “bidding war”. However in that case the seller only gets an additional $50 for his domain - which usually is not worth the trouble of a 7 day auction.
3. The domain receives many additional bids and ends with a significantly higher price - this is very unlikely if the initial offer was higher than the market price already and is much more likely when the initial auction starting price (which also serves as the reserve in such auctions) is much lower than the market price.
Clearly the third case is the only one that justifies pushing a domain with a high initial offer to a sedo auction. However it’s only likely if there can be many potential end users for the domain, or if the initial price was low.

If the initial bid is higher than the market value don’t auction the domain, instead negotiate the max you can out the buyer and try to close the deal as quick as possible!

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